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Re: HEER MODEL LEATHER HOLSTERS - MAKERS & DATES

Posted: Tue 15 Apr 2014, 02:45
by AR-50A1
The last two pics.

Foam flare pistol is not loaded...

Re: HEER MODEL LEATHER HOLSTERS - MAKERS & DATES

Posted: Tue 15 Apr 2014, 03:15
by signalman
Hello, I am sorry to say, but the pigskin holster is well known postwar German holster with fake ink markings.

Re: HEER MODEL LEATHER HOLSTERS - MAKERS & DATES

Posted: Tue 15 Apr 2014, 11:33
by bergler
signalman wrote:Hello, I am sorry to say, but the pigskin holster is well known postwar German holster with fake ink markings.
sorry to say the same, east german post war production with fake markings. They appear on eBay from time to time as 100% original, which they never are. I have a few of those as well, without fake markings. Nice holster and the LP34 fits perfectly, but post war.

Re: HEER MODEL LEATHER HOLSTERS - MAKERS & DATES

Posted: Tue 15 Apr 2014, 17:56
by AR-50A1
Thanks, Gentlemen, for letting me know.

The holster in question is the first pig skin flare pistol holster I have ever seen and its construction even impressed Jerry Burney who operates a leather repair service specializing in Imperial and WWII German holsters.

Do either of you happen to know where I may find some history on this holster? Is there any books, etc. that call out this holster as being a reproduction? Don't take me wrong - both of you have probably forgot more about this subject than I will ever know. I just want to educate myself so I lessen the chance of making another mistake like this.

Are there any legitimate pig skin flare pistol holsters that you are aware of?

Thanks again for taking the time to point me in the right direction. I really appreciate it.

Bill

Re: HEER MODEL LEATHER HOLSTERS - MAKERS & DATES

Posted: Wed 16 Apr 2014, 00:16
by signalman
Wolfgang Kern wrote a book, in German that pictures and talks about Postwar German Flare Pistols.

" Deutche Leucht und Signalpistolen 2 "

and of course there is the large flare gun book in English on German Flareguns that Simpson Ltd. is selling.

Re: HEER MODEL LEATHER HOLSTERS - MAKERS & DATES

Posted: Wed 16 Apr 2014, 08:41
by bergler
AR-50A1 wrote:Thanks, Gentlemen, for letting me know.

The holster in question is the first pig skin flare pistol holster I have ever seen and its construction even impressed Jerry Burney who operates a leather repair service specializing in Imperial and WWII German holsters.

Do either of you happen to know where I may find some history on this holster? Is there any books, etc. that call out this holster as being a reproduction? Don't take me wrong - both of you have probably forgot more about this subject than I will ever know. I just want to educate myself so I lessen the chance of making another mistake like this.

Are there any legitimate pig skin flare pistol holsters that you are aware of?

Thanks again for taking the time to point me in the right direction. I really appreciate it.

Bill
Hi, this holster is NOT a reproduction, it is just not from WW2 area, but postwar. You find many WW2 holster reproductions now for 30 EUR on the net which look like the original. This one does not, it was issued and introduced in the 50s as far as I know, but make and quality are very good indeed as it has been through army acceptance and seen field wear. And yours has been pimped up ;-)

Re: HEER MODEL LEATHER HOLSTERS - MAKERS & DATES

Posted: Thu 17 Jul 2014, 07:27
by signalman
This is a 1935 manufactured holster I just purchased, manufactured by CARL KUNTZE / PENING SA.

there is an early eagle waa to the right of the makers stamp visible in the 1st photo, but it is too weak to show any details.

Re: HEER MODEL LEATHER HOLSTERS - MAKERS & DATES

Posted: Wed 26 Apr 2017, 19:39
by Peter
This is an early, 1928 manufactured holster.
Maker and WaA are there, but hard to read.
Other markings: II / J.R.10 , 2 and 3553

Original (found in barn with LP42 still inside).
See pictures...

Re: HEER MODEL LEATHER HOLSTERS - MAKERS & DATES

Posted: Wed 26 Apr 2017, 19:44
by Peter
And another one:
WaA920 K. Budischovsky Wien (AT) 1942

Could anyone give an opinion about the originality of this one?

Re: HEER MODEL LEATHER HOLSTERS - MAKERS & DATES

Posted: Thu 27 Apr 2017, 03:56
by signalman
I like the 1928 holster very much, they are near impossible to find, Keep me in mind if it is for sale.

The other holster from the photo's, I do not like the metal fittings, it does not look WWII to me. The leather would need further examination, The front looks repro, and the back seems to look good from what I can see.

I would like other opinions, Leather is not my area of expertise, which is why I started this thread.